Challaine (00:31)
And welcome everyone to today's episode of Let's Have a Chat. I'm Shalane, your host, life and recovery coach and number one bestselling new release author for my book, I Woke Up One Day and Changed My Fucking Mind. And I am so excited today to have Chase Roberts on this episode. I think, Chase, you are actually the youngest person that I've ever had on the show at the ripe young age of 22. That's so cool.
Chase Roberts (00:57)
22.
Challaine (00:59)
And what caught my attention with you and I was like, I got to have this girl on my show because you had posted a video. β I can't even remember, you post so much content, which I absolutely love, but you had posted a video about you traveling and owning a business and camping and just doing all these things and not tied into the little box of what we're supposed to be doing at 22.
And if I could go back now at 40 and if I would have known you at 20, I swear I'd be taking tips from you. But at 40, I can use some of your tips for my children, which I absolutely love. So thank you, Chase, for being on the episode today. I'm honored to have you and to dig into your brain and see what we can come up with today.
Chase Roberts (01:48)
Yeah, I'm so excited to be here. I'm ready to help anybody out who is lost in their 20s or any age for that matter really because I think we're all a little bit lost sometimes. And just to show what's possible and to not have life so serious, so figured out, so curated for where you're going next and just like to enjoy what you love. Like what did you come here to do? What did you come here to experience? And how do you know what you love in your 20s if you've never gone out to
see what's out there. Like there are so many endless opportunities that I'm discovering and it's just like we are expected to know that coming out of high school and I had zero clue of what I loved doing when I was 18. So yeah.
Challaine (02:20)
That's so true, hey?
I'm curious to know what are your thoughts of the whole, I'm sure I think I know the answer to this, but I want to hear it coming from you. What are your thoughts and ideas of go to school, go to university, get a good job, and then do the whole retire at 60-65 thing?
Chase Roberts (02:49)
So want to say I'm so grateful that I was the year of COVID. I graduated in COVID. So the only option was to go to school online. And that to me was like, absolutely not. just, I'm not an online learner. I really need to be in person. But like I was on the path to go to school. I wanted to get a bachelor's of science, whatever that means. And I had the marks. Like I had good marks. Like the teachers are pushing you to be like, you're good. Like you have the marks. You should go and like,
Challaine (03:10)
Whatever that means,
Chase Roberts (03:18)
going to science, like that's just kind of what my friends were doing. had all my friends were going to school. I was the only one that was deciding what if I took a year off just to figure my life out, figure out what it is that I might be on the path to go towards, what programs are out there because there's so many programs. But in my head, I had been working already for like six years as a server. And so I kind of was just like,
I know what it's like to be out working and it doesn't make sense to me that I'm gonna go spend this much money for four years if I don't even know if I wanna do it.
Challaine (03:49)
Hold on, I'm gonna pause you for a second.
I'm gonna pause you for a sec. At 18, you had been working as a server for six years.
Chase Roberts (03:58)
Well...
Sorry, four years by then. So then, and then I did, so four years was actually, so I started at 14 as a hostess. And so I had four years of working with people in their 30s and seeing a lot of them not using their degrees or if they were, making very minimal money with their degrees. And to me, it just wasn't clicking. I, so many people were telling me like, travel, go do this. Like there was lots of, it was really hard to listen to all the outside noise.
Challaine (04:06)
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (04:25)
And a lot of people were saying, why aren't you in school yet? Why are you just like working? So there was both sides of like the coin there. And I really had to like be confident in my choice. And it took me a few years to like be like, no, I'm actually doing this for me, not for anybody else. And I'm glad that my parents were supportive. I feel like that is the biggest stressor for some people as their parents are pushing them to just go do something. And I just heard from a lot of my friends, they weren't happy in what they were doing. And I really wanted to be happy. And I don't think I was happy getting out of high school.
Challaine (04:39)
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (04:54)
I was lost and like, why am I working so hard? I had probably three jobs at one point and I'm like, but I wasn't doing anything with the money. It was just sitting there and I'm like, it doesn't really make me happy. I'm putting all this energy into somebody else's business and just wearing myself down. And so that's kind of when I found travel and my best friend asked me to go to Europe and I said,
I am so scared I've never been to an airport and I hopped on a plane by myself to go meet her and it was like this life-changing experience of like there's a whole other world out there that we're missing that I was missing because I had never been exposed to it and I was like wow there's jobs and volunteer experiences and you can I volunteered to teach English in Costa Rica for like minimal money and it was like why is nobody telling you about this in high school that you can go do these things and
It was such a big growth experience because you're getting out of your comfort zone to go to a different country, not speak their language, to make friends. And that was kind of my university experience. Sometimes I feel like I missed out on not having that like lifestyle in the dorm rooms and friends and going out, but I've lived many lives in the past seven years instead. So yeah, it's just. Yes, like really realizing that school is amazing, I think for many reasons too.
Challaine (06:07)
You're like street smart. Yeah.
Chase Roberts (06:14)
And I can go back to school if I decide. Yes. If I.
Challaine (06:15)
And here, like, big disclaimer here, we're not like, we're not bashing school by any means. Like,
yeah, we're not bashing school.
Chase Roberts (06:24)
was deciding that maybe I was going out to find out what it is I wanted to do so I could go back to school, but I don't think that's the case because I found working for myself and being able to make money from like literally anything. There are so many things out there. If you're willing to do something, there's money in it. So I had to accept that and I've worked through a lot of my limiting beliefs around that to become this version of me who says, okay, I'm going here tomorrow and I don't care what anyone says. And so the most recent thing is buying a one-way ticket to Australia because
I have free will, so yeah. It's definitely been.
Challaine (06:58)
That's so exciting.
What was the turning point for you to be like, I'm not listening to anybody. Like what was like that deciding factor? Because you must have been on the fence, right? Like young age, this is the way like I've been, I grew up, this is what I've been taught that I have to do next and go to school and do all these things. But what was it that was like, no, β I'm out. I'm not doing this anymore.
Chase Roberts (07:09)
Okay.
Yes, it took me a while from everyone's like, I felt the pressure from everyone having to have it figured out, especially being asked, like I was a young server, so everyone kind of, that's the question, go to question, hey, what are you doing with your life? What are you, why aren't you in school yet? Like I had an answer to it a lot, but my turning point was March of 2022. My mom signed up for UPW, which is a Tony Robbins event. And so it's a three day virtual event. And that was the most like immersive.
life-changing, eye-opening thing that you have full control over your life and I was definitely living in this like, I have no control, like I just have to show up for work, I have to work and that was definitely like, wow, there was like, I could create my own life and have it not be anybody else's and I thought I was a huge people pleaser, like it was so hard for me not to like, be called in for work, I had to say yes. If I said no to taking a day off, it was like,
I'm going to be seen as a bad worker or like not worthy. And that was such a huge, work that, but I worked at seven years, that was the biggest growth for me to run my own business now because I had so much experience in like standing up for myself, talking to hundreds of people like a day and just realizing that like, this is not what I want to do for the rest of my life. and that was, think Tony Robbins was just finding out that personal development piece.
that you are your biggest investment. And when you're growing and learning every single day, that's when you're happy. Like that is where your happiness is found is pushing yourself and doing the hard things. And one of the hardest things was my trip was to Machu Picchu. The Inca trail is a four day hiking trail and that's in Peru. And it was the most exhausting, tiring trip ever, but the most fulfilling trip I've been on. Like the culture, the people, the...
how much strength it takes to do the four days of hiking, like to push your mental state to see actually what's possible. That was a big wake up for me as well, that like you can do hard things and when you're done those hard things, you'll be really proud of yourself.
Challaine (09:27)
You can do hard things. I love that. That is so simple, but so true. We get, we can tend to get so wrapped up in the fear of the thing that we've never experienced before, that we've never, the mountain we've never climbed, the hike that we've never gone on, the plane we've never jumped out of, or the school that we haven't enrolled in, or whatever, the trip we haven't gone on. We get so scared of the thing before we've even...
Chase Roberts (09:29)
Hmm.
Bye.
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (09:54)
like immersed ourselves in it.
Chase Roberts (09:56)
Mm-hmm, and it took me a long time to recognize those excuses. A lot of the time the excuses are you just being scared and so you feel better making excuses of why you can't do that thing. So like, can't go to school because I don't have money. I can't go on this trip because I don't have money. Or it's just not the right time. And I started to realize there's never a good time, like for anything. Like, money. every time.
Challaine (10:17)
Isn't that so true? There's never a good time.
Chase Roberts (10:22)
Like when I quit my job, I like just got my new car. I just came back from traveling Europe I just got scammed $3,000 like worst financial thing that I should everyone's telling me Why would you quit your job? And I'm like I am out of here because when you know, you know and I've really learned To be true to who I am and I'm a yoga teacher. So I'm huge on listening to your intuition and trusting yourself and knowing that You are the only one that can
bring you to the next part of your life. You can listen to everybody else's advice and but you have to see what really resonates with you and what makes you happy and that's what I've been really practicing is listening to what fits with me and if you go out and try things I learned pretty quickly now that's not for me that's not for me and I'm okay to say I'm walking away from this a lot of times it's like you're failing you're quitting but I'm like no I'm actually just making a more aligned life for me by removing the things that don't sit well with me and
Challaine (11:11)
So yeah.
Chase Roberts (11:14)
I didn't know that before. I just thought, it's, don't really want to do this, but I have to do it. No, you actually don't have to do it if you don't want to do it. There's some things in life you have to do, but I think I've really changed a positive mindset that I get to do that thing. just, just, there's a, there's a lot of freedom. Yeah, there's a lot of freedom. I think when you shift your mindset, that's the biggest thing I'd say is like investing in my mindset is the thing that keeps me going for sure.
Challaine (11:32)
I get to do the thing.
and Tony Robbins was a huge inspiration and a turning point for you. I think it's so important that we have mentors like that, whether they're on a grand scale like Tony Robbins or even like a grandma or a grandpa that just can see things not so linear, you know, like.
Chase Roberts (11:48)
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (12:06)
not so black and white, it's okay to like have grey murky water sometimes. And it doesn't have to be yes or no, all in or all out, like the fluidity, right, of life. It's not just linear. β My greatest mentor of all times, β Wayne Dyer. Do you know Dr. Wayne Dyer? Love, love, love that fellow. I talked about him.
Chase Roberts (12:11)
Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Challaine (12:28)
a lot on the show and whenever I'm struggling in my life. Rest in peace, he passed away two years ago, but geez, it's probably been like 10 years now, but β whenever I'm struggling in my life, I'll turn on his YouTube or podcast or whatever I can just to hear his voice and to kind of go back to, like your turning point was with.
Tony Robbins, my turning point when I was at such a low in my life, I found Wayne Dyer and to kind of have him in my back pocket has been such an integral part of my life and my journey and my growth to know that even unbeknownst to them, they are with you.
Chase Roberts (13:01)
Meh.
Challaine (13:12)
kind of thing, right? So I'm glad that you found Tony. Like I'm really glad you found Tony and millions of others have too.
Chase Roberts (13:17)
Mom. And me.
I
think that was the biggest thing is seeing that wow, actually everybody is struggling like no matter what age like I thought I was just young so I'm like this is a young person thing but the more I went to more events and the more I saw like everybody's actually no matter where they are in life no matter where they are in business there's something that they're struggling with and realizing that I'm not anyone different to not start something new and I think the fear comes from what people are gonna think of your decision that you've made the biggest thing why I didn't make some decisions was
β I'm gonna be seen this way but when I stopped caring about how this is gonna come across and Was making decisions based on what and I was willing to sit with my decisions if this decision didn't work out for me I was willing to sit with it because I'm like this is Part of my journey part of my life. I'm growing experiencing it But it's seen if I failed or if I decided right now I said if I'm going Australia in my head I'm going if I don't go that's okay. That is okay, and I'm not gonna be seen as she just didn't like
that's some of the fear is like putting something out there saying you're gonna do something and it doesn't work out realizing that actually nobody cares that it didn't work out for you other than you β
Challaine (14:25)
That is
so true. That is so true. had, β
I can relate to this, this just popped into my mind. I had been accepted to be a cast member on a documentary series called Legacy Makers. And I announced it on Facebook and I was super excited about it. Like I'd have an IMDB profile, like, cause it's part of a show. So it shows up on the IM, so I had either IMDB or IMBD. β And I would show up as a cast member and it like builds a credibility and all these things. And then,
Then I decided, decided no. I'm not doing it. Like I don't, I don't want to. And I'm like, like in my head, I was like, well, I've already announced it. And like, I got all these kudos and like, oh, you're to be awesome and all these things. And now I'm not going to be doing it. And nobody's going to give a fuck. You know, like it's so true. It really doesn't matter. I just didn't feel aligned with it anymore.
Chase Roberts (15:17)
No. yeah. Like, people have so much going on.
Yeah. Like, you can make a decision today. And I've decided that when I wake up, I'm like, who is it that I want to be today? What do I want to do today? Like, you have so many days here on Earth to experience in your life. What is it that you want to do? Like, do I want to go up and journal and have a tea outside and...
That's why I created my own business is to have that freedom, to have that flexibility. I felt there was always that schedule over my head all the time. There was never a day off really because you're thinking about when am I going to work next? Now I honestly like being a year of being self-employed, I don't even think about that I have to go to work. Like that's, I still think I'm unemployed, I tell people, but I'm not. Like I'm doing it for myself though. And that's the biggest thing. It's like when I mess up,
Challaine (16:02)
Right.
Chase Roberts (16:07)
something in my business, I can go back to me and deal with it. Like, that's what I really enjoy is that freedom to choose that like, we're not always meant to be hustling. We're not always meant to be like, you're allowed to listen to your body. And that's the biggest thing in yoga. Some days are not my best days. And there's a weeks where I'm like hustling it out, getting it done. And there's another week where I'm like, this is slow. And that really bothers me. It's been hard to sit and slow down. But when I quit my job, I had nothing lined up. No job.
It was winter time here in Canada and I just was like, I need to just, like, I've been doing this for seven years. You need a period to just slow down and actually ask yourself what's next. But we're so pushed to be like, jump into the next thing. Yes. And so that was a huge thing when people were saying like, why aren't you working yet? Why aren't you working? Like that was hard for me to be like, you know what? I actually get the privilege to take this time off. Like I've had savings that I'm allowing myself to use to.
Challaine (16:44)
and reset, like running on that adrenaline all the time.
Chase Roberts (16:59)
figure out what is next for me and slow down, catch up with myself and become this new version of me. And working at a bar, was hard to be around that energy all that time. Like it's not always the best supportive energy. So when I took myself out of there, like I felt myself leap like 10 times and I was surrounded by people who actually supported me for me, no matter what I was doing. And that comes back to picking the right people to have in your corner because when you decide that you're not going to go on that TV show,
they're gonna be happy for you no matter what. They're gonna be happy knowing that you made the decision for you and they wouldn't want you making a decision just because you have to or it's gonna look good. So yeah, that's definitely.
Challaine (17:39)
and
And that's just it. Like tapping into, and I wanted to talk about this, about the intuition. Like there was just something, I was like super excited to do this show and like the people were great and yeah, the credibility and blah, blah. And aside from like social media, it'd be my first time on screen. So I was really like looking forward to that growth and then something just kind of hit. And I was like, no, this isn't for me in this
Chase Roberts (18:04)
Uh-huh.
Challaine (18:08)
moment and it's like the old me would have been like well I committed to this and you're only as good as your word and blah blah blah and I'm like well I'm not hurting anyone by not doing this and so I can I can change my mind and that's okay and that's like what your intuition is like it's a real it's like a visceral gut feeling
Chase Roberts (18:20)
Huh.
And realizing love.
Bye.
Challaine (18:33)
of
this isn't in alignment with what I want to do. And then if you force yourself to do the thing, then you're not going to be as successful doing the thing if you just let it flow naturally and your heart is really into it.
Chase Roberts (18:43)
I have one.
I really, yeah, find that that's the biggest thing that pushes me and people ask me, why did you go to Australia? Why do you want to go to Australia? I'm like, I don't know. It's just like one day I'm like, this is where I'm going. And so far, like,
Challaine (18:56)
That
is a question. Why are you going to Australia? What's happening? you have any plan?
Chase Roberts (18:59)
Yeah. So I've wanted to go for
a long time. I've been to over 23 countries in the past three years and I've met a lot of Australians. I've met a lot of people who've worked in Australia and they are like, is the best thing I did for me. One guy I met, he's on his third year, his visa is renewing so he can go work another year. He's like, it's the best thing. I think for me, I am running an interior detail business. So I'm not going to be detailing in the wintertime. I totally could figure out a way.
But I want to go do something else, seasonal work in the winter time and I don't want to be in winter time in Canada right now. So I was like, what, like Australia is just so far and so why would I just go for a month long trip when I can go get a visa and like work there, experience it and just, I really want to do things that are really uncomfortable and going to a new country by yourself with minimal things and to really just see what's possible and I know that this
is scary, it's gonna push me, I'm doing my content on it, and it's just like, I wanna see my growth in everything, and Australia is the furthest thing I know from Canada, so I was like, how can I get so far away that I'm like, there's no going back? And it's just, it kind of, I met two girls that came to Canada and worked here for a year, and I realized how fast a year went. I was like, our time is flying by, and I'm 22, I will never have this freedom again, where I can just pick up and leave and have nothing to worry about and to,
Challaine (20:05)
Yeah, yeah.
Chase Roberts (20:21)
experience it as a 22 year old and I say that people always say I'm gonna wait till I'm till I'm done school I'm gonna wait till this Why why are you waiting because that time goes by so quickly? So if I go to Australia times going by if I don't time is also going by So I just realized that a year is gonna go by Like it's going by no matter what Mm-hmm
Challaine (20:36)
β I love that perspective. love
that perspective. I can do the thing and be scared to do the thing, but once I start doing the thing, I'm not gonna be scared anymore because I'm doing the thing that I wanted to fucking do in the beginning. Or I cannot do the thing and think about the thing all the time and regret not doing the thing that I wanted to do and...
Time does fly, you're 22. I was pregnant with my first at 22 and I had him at 23 and he's now going into grade 12. We talked about this before we hit record and I'm like, holy geez, he bought his own car, he pays for his own insurance, he's out working the family business today before he starts school tomorrow.
Chase Roberts (21:09)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (21:26)
That's it, he's 17, like he's almost out of the nest, right? So yeah, it goes by so fast. I love that you are building this life for you currently and...
Chase Roberts (21:29)
I'm not sure.
So sad.
Challaine (21:46)
kind of for your future too. What are your future, I'm curious, like what are your future plans? Like do you want to have kids? Do you want to get married? Do you want to do like have a house and do all the things?
Chase Roberts (21:48)
Hmm.
Thank
Yes,
I, for 100%, I'm thinking like, so when I was younger, I always said I'm getting married at 24, like this is my life plan. I mean, I still have two years to go, maybe, maybe, but I, my 20s, yes, you never know, I'm putting, my 20s though, I'm really dedicating to me. I'm being selfish, I'm putting, because so many people like are rushing in their 20s to get married and everything, like I get it, there's that pressure, but like, why are we hurrying? Like there's so much time.
Challaine (22:05)
It could happen. You might need an Australian. Who knows?
Chase Roberts (22:24)
And so I say like, am totally good too. Like this is 20s is building me and in my 30s, that's my time. If I want to have kids and get married and I feel like there's this huge thing of like, you have to get married and have kids young and there's, don't know why, but I've realized there's like more and more I do things. There's just more things I figure out like this country or this opportunity. There's just so much out there that I want to do and it will never be the same. Like when you're solo, it's just so different and I love doing it and learning by myself.
And that's when you, I think I'm just becoming a version of me more and more and I meet more people that are aligned with where I'm at in my path. And it's constantly changing. So I could say I have these plans for the next five years, but I'm totally open to it changing. And so when I started content creation, it was in January of this year. So it's been about like eight or nine months of me posting every single day. And I was really scared to start posting because of how people were gonna see me, but also not having a niche or not having something.
that I'm like, I'm going to build this forever. Because when I say I'm like, I'm doing interior detailing right now, that might not be my forever business. This is where a place where I'm growing and learning and those skills might be used. And that's what I'm recognizing. Like everything you're just building, building blocks for your future self. And I think people think if you make a decision, it's you're like, be all, all. Like this is my business. Now I have to stick with it for the rest of my life. It's like, no, you don't. You can actually create multiple things along the way.
Challaine (23:47)
Exactly and you are like learning how to run a business at this stage, right? It's like Kind of I don't want to say a baby business but it's your first business and you're learning the ropes and like invoicing and customer communication and that sort of thing and You can like you said you're building on these skills take those skills and build it into an empire who knows maybe you might franchise this business and Like anything anything is possible
Chase Roberts (23:52)
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Mm-hmm.
When you say yes to something, that is when I notice things start to fall into place. And so when I say, I have no idea how I'm going here. It's like, I'm always amazed by how it works out because you think it has to be this way. But things can happen like that. Like I met up with a friend who we got to stay in this beautiful villa in Tuscany for free. So what if I said I can't afford to go to Tuscany? But I showed up there and it was
Challaine (24:24)
I love that.
Chase Roberts (24:42)
free. Because we said yes to it. So there's so many things when I've been traveling that it just works out. I meet somebody that knows somebody that's really it. It just your connections along the way where you're like, given it to in a way that you've never been able to think it would be possible. Like it's always logical thinking of I have to make this amount of money in order to go here. And if until I have that money saved, then I'll go. I don't make that I'm like, I'm going now.
Challaine (24:42)
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (25:06)
And I trust that there's opportunities going to show itself to me when I get to Australia. And so when people say, oh, what's your plans? I'm like, one way ticket, that is it. I don't know. Right now, that's a plan. So it could change and I could have a job pop up and I'm like, this is where I want to go. right now I'm working on content creation. I'm on YouTube. I want to inspire people in their 20s to just push what's possible and to explore their options before deciding that this is it for me. So I'm just.
glad that I've found that and I continuously realize that this is just growth and enjoying my journey right now. I'm not like hustling so hard to like retire myself. I think a lot of people are like pushing, pushing, pushing and they're not enjoying like their life right now. I've created balance in my life so I can wake up at this time, go to the gym, take care of myself and then start my day instead of pushing myself at six a.m. to get to work and work the whole day and not have any time to sit with myself. That's not why I created
my business to hustle every day.
Challaine (26:02)
I love that with your content creation, like you said you don't have a niche. You're just like, this is me, I'm Chase, I'm living my life and I'm just doing me. like, you aren't dedicated to opening packages from Sheen or something every single day, you know? Like you're truly living authentically and with no plan, a little bit of a plan, but really no plan and just kind of...
Chase Roberts (26:18)
β huh. Yeah.
Challaine (26:31)
going where life takes you. β I gotta ask because I think β for us older ones in the crowd here.
How are you, what do you know about money? Like just like flat out, what do you know about money? How are you saving it? What do you allot for like your travel and that sort of thing? Is there like a specific number that you think we need to save every month? I'm sure you think about retirement at some point and maybe having a nest egg or maybe you don't, I'm just assuming you would. β What?
Chase Roberts (26:46)
one.
Okay.
β
Challaine (27:04)
What can you tell me about money in your 20s and what have you learned so far?
Chase Roberts (27:10)
I make this joke to everyone. I say that I'm on the universal payroll. The universe pays for me to exist. And people laugh, but I genuinely believe money. Like, I'm working on my money beliefs and what you're attracting into your life. And if you're in this scarcity mindset that there is, you gotta be so strict with your money and there's no room. And I believe that money will always come to me when I am like, need the money. Like,
Challaine (27:12)
Tell me.
Chase Roberts (27:36)
There's times where I'm like, have no idea how I'm to make this payment, especially when you're running a business. I have great months and the next month I'm like, how am going to keep going? But it's been a year because there's these lump sums of money. The right clients reach out to me. When I'm in this state of flow, that is when the opportunities present themselves and your life can change tomorrow. Like there can be this huge thing, this huge like opportunity you've been given that
Chase Roberts (27:58)
So when I'm in this state of flow, I just find that the right people, the right clients will always find me because I'm showing up as me and in this energy that's open to experiences, open to opportunities. And so when I go to the gym, I meet people. I go and everyone has a car. So interior detail business is strictly about finding the right people. Like just telling people you want your car clean, nine times out of 10. But it's, I've realized it's not about the service at all that you're selling. It's more so about how you're selling it.
Challaine (28:16)
Yeah. β
Chase Roberts (28:26)
how you are marketing yourself. And so after working in a community for seven years, I know a lot of people and that has been my biggest clientele is just the people that I've known and made connections with and they trust me. They've seen I've shown up for work. They see the type of person I am and people are really enjoying watching my journey, building this business online. And I feel like that is also a big thing. People want to support me and that is how I've kind of been able to keep going on the money standpoint. And that's why I started that because I became a yoga teacher and
100 % you can make money in yoga, but it's a lot of finding, pushing, and I didn't know if I wanted to do that full time. It really was, wanna help people, and I do it like once or twice a week for fun, and for me, it's not necessarily this is gonna be my business, but I had to realize that there's like coming up with multiple streams of income of like, I do house sitting, I do dog sitting, cat sitting, I won't like literally do anything. I work for my dad on the weekends, like.
I have had to find ways of just keeping it going because there are like, when you're working for yourself, are in charge of booking people in, you're in charge of making that money show up. You're not this steady paycheck every single week. So I've had to realize like, yeah, I need to actually allot my money accordingly and budget it because the money I made this week also has to go for my paycheck next week type of thing. So this month of August was full money. I decided that I'm gonna track
every single piece of my income and every single of my expenses to actually see because I was really like when you're 14 making money 15 16 17 I was making good tips I did not track my money I put money away every single month at one point I was putting away $800 a month to my tax-free savings account and then when I quit I used my savings but that's kind of what was there I think like I am like I'm still young where I'm now
Challaine (29:58)
Mm-hmm.
Absolutely, yeah.
Chase Roberts (30:17)
Educating myself. I don't have I would say like there was no education in high school about anything really like maybe a little bit on me Interest side of things but like I have also racked up debt on my credit cards and that was a huge thing that I had to get over was like this Fear of like I've done something bad and it's like, know what? No, I've actually used this debt to create the life I've wanted and I've bought my time I use this debt to buy my time at my 20s to travel the world and to see
Challaine (30:23)
it's so true. β
Chase Roberts (30:44)
That to me, my time is so much more valuable than the money. And with this debt, it has put this like fire to figure out how can I make more money? How can I build in my business? I need to show up as a different person in my business because I need to make this monthly income now. And I just use it as a tool to, okay, it's pushing me to learn more about where my money is going. Because if you're always comfortable, you won't have that fear or that push to like figure something out. So this month of August was me first accepting that
We actually need to start focusing on our finances more and it's okay to focus on money. And it's not a badge. Yeah, it's not bad that you didn't know what to do with your money. And it's perfect to now you're recognizing it now I can educate myself. And so I'm listening to a lot of books, a lot of podcasts of like, and there's so many ideas like, you should not you should save until you're this and then but I'm like, I also think life is happening, you should experience it and my money is just a way.
Challaine (31:17)
and it's okay to talk about it.
That's
kind of me. I'm like, eh, I'll worry about it later.
Chase Roberts (31:40)
to experience life.
Like, I say, like, could die. I could die. So, and I'd be disappointed. I'm like, money you can't take with you. And I'm also pretty, like, now that I've learned, like, I want to spend my money on experiences. I don't get my hair done anymore. I don't get my nails done. Like, I wanted to, like, I did do that a lot. But when I started going on my own, I'm like, hey, where do I actually want to spend my money? I don't need to spend $150 on that right now. And...
I stopped buying clothes, I stopped buying like material things and that was like in high school, that's a lot of my money went to shoes, clothes and like showing up a certain way and I realized it doesn't actually matter. When I started traveling out of a backpack, I had 10 shirts and that's it, like, and it was fine. My experience didn't change. So now my money has just shifted to building my dream and putting all my money back into my business, back into travel. And that's really what I value. So I think recognizing what you value is the biggest thing.
because I could easily go to the dealership tomorrow and sign up for a new car. Like it's crazy. I bought, β I went and I got my Tata Corolla, which was like brand new, leased. And I just traded it back in so I could go to Australia. And to me, like the reason I did that was because like the peace of mind of not having the car pay or not having like the breakdowns and everything. So I took the cheapest car that I could get. But even then I recognize having a car payment every single month with insurance is expensive and it adds up over time.
And I realized that money that I could really like put that somewhere else. But I was just shocked how easy it is to go and sign yourself up. I could have got like an $80,000 truck. Like, and you could sink yourself so quickly because it's a monthly payment. Yeah, like, right? And but there's, I'm still figuring out that fine line of like, where do I like treat myself? And where do I put that money? Like it's really, it is hard in your 20s and
Challaine (33:13)
Alright, I'm selling my truck. I'm selling my house today. I'm selling it all.
Chase Roberts (33:28)
I didn't go to school and so I still think like my friends are probably getting out of school with like 30 to $80,000 of debt, some people. And I have to, yeah, like I have to remind myself that I am actually like, I'm investing in coaching. I'm investing in like my travels. That's where like, I kind of have some money to play. Cause if I was going to university, I'm not saying I'm spend a hundred thousand dollars without like on loans, right? But.
Challaine (33:37)
At least, yeah.
Chase Roberts (33:54)
I kind of have that money to play around with to I'm choosing my own education. Like I'm choosing where my money's going in different ways and people value different things. So I don't think I've even spent close to $30,000 on traveling and I've been to over 23 countries. So that to me, I've got the amount of experience I've got for that money is crazy. And like the return on my like education is...
Challaine (34:14)
Not even
$30,000 on 23 countries. Girl, you need to start a travel blog or a travel podcast or something because that, whatever tricks you figured out to travel to 23 countries, like if I were to take, okay, provided I've got six people in my family, if we were gonna go to like Thailand or something, we're like, hey, that's 25, $30,000 for us to go. So like.
Chase Roberts (34:24)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (34:38)
I'm not the typical scenario, but for those just getting out of high school or in contemplating this travel lifestyle, I think you have some infinite wisdom here of 23 countries. That's like just a little bit over $1,000 a country. That's incredible.
Chase Roberts (34:50)
Bye.
Yeah.
Yes. And I think people think travel is expensive, which
travel can be expensive. You can make it. when we like I lived in my truck for like, I lived in my truck for two months. That saves a lot of money. We're not paying for hotels. We are cooking our own food. We like still got the college experience by living off of noodles. And we were going to the same places. Like when I went to like we went to Banff in Alberta, like we were going to the same places. But
Challaine (35:04)
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah. β
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (35:23)
it was just we chose to spend our money differently so we could still spend money on like the actual experiences and not like like the hotel you're sleeping either way and so the hostels i stayed in some of them were ten dollars a night like that's my coffee here like it just doesn't add up look and so some people i talked to my friends like i would never stay in a hostel that is never happening and i'm like i'm i'm okay to rest
Challaine (35:38)
Yeah.
Why not? You're sleeping.
Chase Roberts (35:46)
I'm okay to
rough it and honestly, don't think people there's a stigma hostels are actually just like hotels that some of them are like bougie or then some hotels that I've stayed at so it's just Deciding like what do you value? So I value the experience part of travel and I was volunteering I was trading my time in the country So that's another way you can save money and going to Australia now like I'll be working so I'm able to kind of like offset some of my like Expenses there. So I think there's a way like when you decide that you have a dream
Mine is to travel. I love traveling. My family does not travel. They've like, I didn't get my passport until I was 19. So, and I had never been on a plane and I just stepped on one for 10 hours to Poland by myself. Like this was the scariest experience and I almost, I called, I called at, no, my best friend does. My best friend, I was meeting her there. So it's the only way that I went, but I actually called my flight company to cancel before I was about to go. Cause I was so scared. And they said,
Challaine (36:26)
To Poland. Do you know Polish? Do you know the language?
Chase Roberts (36:40)
no refunds and I said okay well then I guess I have to go so I went and it was the best like I almost sabotaged this whole month of Europe travel because I was so scared that I wouldn't be able to figure out how to get to the airport I was like how many people fly a day so many like
Challaine (36:56)
and which would have
potentially sabotaged the rest of your trips moving forward. If you wouldn't have taken that leap to go to Poland, probably you wouldn't be going to Australia in the next, whenever you're going, couple weeks.
Chase Roberts (36:59)
Mm-hmm.
β
And so last summer was when I decided to backpack Europe solo so that was like also I'm going there now like for the second time this is by myself so like you grow when you get comfortable with one thing you can step up to the next thing you don't have to like throw yourself in there like a lot of people do solo travel the first trip 100 % but I just like the more
I realized like other people weren't gonna do it with me. I said, I don't wanna stop traveling. So that's why I was like, I'm going to Costa Rica. And the second I've landed in a country, I'm like, wow, what was I scared of? Like so many girls were doing what I was doing younger than me. And you just don't see that. And so until you go do it yourself, I'm like, you literally have nothing to worry about. I'm like, you be safe, everything, but it's just, it's a lot more in reach than you think, especially money-wise. Like I definitely think we, I was really budget friendly and like,
Challaine (37:54)
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (37:57)
When I was serving, I was able to come back home and work for six months and then take a couple months off. Like that's how I was able to do it. So I'm really grateful for that job that I was able to take time off of that.
Challaine (38:04)
That's brilliant. You
said something that has really kind of enlightened me and I feel you are so wise beyond your years and I just love the strength and the courage and the passion and the go get-a-ness that you have. But you said your experience doesn't change based on what I wear and I'm totally gonna use that.
Chase Roberts (38:28)
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (38:31)
with my kids, especially my 14 year old daughter, right? Like in high school, it's like planning out the outfits the night before and all the things. And then like, yeah, you want to be presentable and you want to look nice and feel good in what you're wearing. even like just for myself, the damn experience is not going to change depending what I'm wearing. And we don't need the big labels and the big labels that come with the big price tags.
Chase Roberts (38:33)
Hello. β
How do you know?
Thanks
So I learned my experience pretty early on. So I wore a uniform in high school. So that was kind of nice that I didn't have to think about what I was wearing, but we were allowed to change our shoes. So I would buy lots of shoes. And so one of my shoes were over $500, which is insane for a 16. Like I bought it with my own money. I, but I wore those shoes once, probably once. And I realized that that they had the name, they had the name brand, but
Challaine (38:58)
What, so I can sit your closet?
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (39:25)
I preferred my running shoes that were $80 every single day that I wanted to wear. And when I started traveling, I was like, people are really concerned about your appearance and I find myself caught up in that sometimes of how like I look or... But I don't think about anybody. I don't remember people's outfits. I don't remember what they look like. And when I leave Europe, I actually have no idea what I wore half the time. I don't. But I remember going to the mountain. I remember seeing it and experiencing it and...
Challaine (39:48)
It's so true.
Chase Roberts (39:52)
I think we can get so caught up in these little minuscule things because we're distracting ourselves from the fear, we're distracting ourselves from actually pushing ourselves by buying these little, we need the next slip bomb, we need the next drink container and I love to shop for sure. But I just realized being online a lot now on social media, the amount of push for the more, the more, the more, but I've realized that honestly becomes more stressful. The more clutter I have to deal with, the more stuff I have to put away.
I was happy just like washing my clothes every week. Like that's what saying. Like I lived in my backpack washing my clothes once a week and it was fine. Like I went, nobody saw me. I met new people in the new country. So how did they know what I was wearing in the last time? it's just. Realizing that like it's just, it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's like you are living this human experience and you can't even see yourself half the time. You're just making yourself think a certain way.
Challaine (40:20)
The more laundry you have to do.
Yeah.
my God, it's so true. You're just dropping like these truth bombs.
Chase Roberts (40:47)
Like, you're not looking in the mirror every five seconds of your trip. So, and especially living out of my truck too. I'm like, we were camping every day. We like did not care. But it's, I'm glad I learned that lesson because I'm saving a lot of money. Yeah.
Challaine (40:49)
Yeah.
No.
That is so true. It's
so true and so eye-opening that your experience doesn't change based off of what you're wearing. Now we're not saying like go skydiving in a dress by any means, but β yeah, like that's cool. I'm going to share that with my family today. So thank you for that beautiful insight. β Now I want to go back just a little bit here.
Chase Roberts (41:14)
Give us.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Challaine (41:29)
You suffered with anxiety and mutism? What? And now you like, here you are like podcasting, content creation. How on earth Chase did you get to this point of selective mutism?
Chase Roberts (41:43)
So,
so first 14 years I had selective mutism, which is an anxiety disorder where you basically shut down. If you deal with anxiety, you kind of know it's very overwhelming and it's not something that's logical. You can't just think your brain out of feeling a certain way. And so I would shut down in social situations and not speak, not speak at all. and so kids would obviously make fun of me because it's just like, she's mute. And then when I would say something, they would like,
lose it. They'd be like, she's faking it. Like, it was this a huge thing that people didn't understand. Yeah, and actually one of my friends recently, she said, I didn't like understand what you were going through then. And like, now that you're speaking about it, it's actually really good because my cousin's like kind of like that and like we'd make fun of her for it. And I'm like, there's probably other kids out there that yeah, kids are mean and you don't know and I don't blame people for not knowing but
Challaine (42:13)
Yeah. What's happening?
Chase Roberts (42:34)
I had a close group of friends and so I would be comfortable with people and I would talk to people I was comfortable with because like your walls are down. But the second somebody put me on the spot, it was like, I'm not even gonna speak. I don't wanna be acknowledged. I don't wanna be seen. It's this like overwhelming fear of, and I think it goes back to like, you wanna fit in. That's a human nature thing if you wanna fit in and you'd think that speaking would be right. Like you think that like fitting in, you'd wanna speak up, but like that's how it shows that anxiety is not logical.
Challaine (42:55)
I like a fear of judgment.
Chase Roberts (43:02)
Like it just shuts down. So that was a good long, like I switched schools in grade one. So that was even harder. But when I switched schools in grade one, it like kind of changed. The school was better. And I towards grade five and grade six is when that teacher really pushed me. She did not care that I didn't speak. She was like, you're going to do the work. And I was so scared, but I was. Yes.
Challaine (43:26)
She was there to support you in a good
way. She wasn't like a bully teacher.
Chase Roberts (43:30)
She's one of my
close friends today and I still like work out with her. Like she's retired now and I literally do yoga with her. So it's like so funny how she was the biggest, biggest catalyst to my experience because she was just like, and I was like this, I wanted to get good grades. And so she would make it like, she's like, if you don't, I had to sing for one of my projects. She's like, if you don't sing, you immediately get it. You immediately get like a 75. And I was like,
Challaine (43:36)
Yeah. β cool.
Yeah.
β
Chase Roberts (43:56)
No, like I can't get to 75. Like that was so scary. But doing more and more that to get this project, it was the worst thing ever. And so we also did public public speaking in my school. Every year you had to write a speech and present the speech to the class. I like every year was like, this is horrible. So in grade six is actually when I wrote it about selective mutism and I ended up competing with this speech in grade six to go on stages to bring awareness to it. But
Challaine (43:57)
Oof.
You have to sing? Oh my gosh.
Yes!
Chase Roberts (44:23)
I still was so scared. Like that was the biggest like so I was 12 then so like 14 is when I say that is when I broke out of it completely because I started hostessing. So when I got my job, I almost got fired because she's like you can't work here if you don't speak like you're you have to speak to people and that was like this fear of like, my gosh, I can't get fired. Like I need I need to be here. Like that scared me. And so like I think when I tell people like the biggest way to get over anxiety
Challaine (44:47)
We're gonna have this job.
Chase Roberts (44:53)
or anything that you're struggling with is like exposure therapy of I dealt with hundreds of people every single day and practicing and proving to myself that it was actually okay to see to be seen to speak my experience to speak my opinions and nobody cared like the biggest thing of my anxiety was being judged by how I was speaking to people and so I had to realize that I don't judge other people for speaking to me like I don't care what they say like at the bar or whatever
And so that I think is when I really broke out of my shell was serving and answering the phone and dealing with people who are mad at me, like complaints and being able to respond in social situations over and over and over again for seven years. so now I to literally talk. so also traveling, I had to ask questions in the airport. I had to like, was so like, I would never like, I would rather like get on a different flight than ask questions when I was younger. Right.
Challaine (45:31)
And that gives you the strength.
Chase Roberts (45:44)
Now I'm like, I'm not missing my flight. I need to get help. I will run through an airport and like find the right person, right? So that also traveling is scary because you're not speaking the language. Usually you can find somebody who speaks English and I had to do that. Like it's uncomfortable. And so the more that I've proven to myself that it's actually okay. And gym anxiety is another thing. When I started the gym, I was so scared to be like, I don't know what I'm doing. People are going to judge me. What if I look stupid in the class?
Challaine (45:47)
Yeah, I'm the first to ask the questions. Yeah.
Chase Roberts (46:10)
I will walk into probably any gym now, I don't care, it's just like, nobody, everyone's doing their own workout and I don't even know if they know what they're doing, so. When you are the one acknowledging it and you can't really like, it's our own fear that is pushing us, so I'd still say I struggle with anxiety to this day in different ways. I just know how to cope with it and that's why I got into yoga.
Challaine (46:15)
Excuse me, I'm the one who's gonna look stupid. I already know. Yeah
Chase Roberts (46:33)
and I got into like breath work meditation and actually sitting with the feelings and I have a great mentor as well. She β is a like, I'd say life coach, but also she does work with horses. And so it's a quine therapy and we've done many sessions together and so she goes really deep into like the subconscious beliefs we've had about ourselves so that you can like rewrite these stories for yourself. So as a kid, I believe that I was going to be seen as stupid if I spoke up.
And a lot of the beliefs, everyone that I've met, like when I'm like, I'm hosting events with her now and I teach yoga at these events and people's beliefs are, I'm not worthy. I'm not good enough. I don't deserve this. And I realized like, wow, actually like as a human collective, we all have these beliefs every single day. And I've just become more aware of them and you have to rewrite them. And I've really learned to be positive and talking to myself in a nicer way of like,
Challaine (47:18)
We all believe the same thing. Yeah.
Chase Roberts (47:28)
I am worthy of this. Everything is getting better. And going back to say no to an opportunity, I think we're scared to say no because we think there's nothing better coming. But when I say no, I know that there's something even better coming for me. And so we like, we grab on. When we say no to an opportunity, we're scared because there's nothing better for us. We think that this is the only thing we have to get to. We have to hold on to it. And there's a scarcity.
Challaine (47:38)
Ooooo
Hey, say that again. That was...
Chase Roberts (47:54)
that there's nothing better coming for me. So say you got accepted to a school and it's not your first school or something or like, you don't really feel like you wanna go there, but you're like, oh, it's the only one I got accepted to, I have to go there. But what if you waited a year, did the work and you got accepted into your dream school? That's like, and so when I say no to opportunities of like, I don't wanna go to this thing or whatever, and I realized like...
It didn't matter if I said no to that job. Like I've said no to multiple jobs and I thought that, this is my only way of making money. Like even when I had no money, I was getting job offers. And I felt like that was the universe's way of saying, how badly do you want to actually go in on your dream? And I said no when I could have needed the money. I could have said yes, but I just realized that that was me going back into the old cycle that I would have wanted to get out of in the next couple of months. So when you say no to something, I had the belief of there's something better coming along. That didn't work out.
something better is coming along. Relationships, when I've ended relationships, I'm like, there is something even better out there for me. I just am ready to move on from this chapter. that, think, has given me the peace of mind that everything is working out for me perfectly. β Every time that I need it, I'm given the right support, I'm given the right people, the right lessons to get to the next step. You're never alone, really.
Challaine (49:03)
can you write a book? And just like, yeah, can you write a book and like just dedicate it to like all the 20 year olds? Because with your insight and your wisdom and your common sense, you have common sense, which is β rare, I find. Common sense is very rare and autonomy. You have a lot of autonomy you can think for yourself. β
Chase Roberts (49:05)
Yes. β
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (49:31)
I truly, truly feel that the more you can, you could change a whole generation. That's like point blank. I feel you have it in you to be the voice of a generation and future generations to come to start changing these limiting beliefs that we have based upon the fact of the things that we've grown up with, the things that we have been schooled, the things that we have been taught.
Chase Roberts (49:37)
you
Mm-hmm.
Challaine (49:58)
inside and outside of school, right? Or have not been taught.
Chase Roberts (49:59)
Yeah. Like it's not even,
it's not even your fault. Like that's thing we know. knew nothing until I saw Tony Robbins, Tony Robbins, I knew nothing other than that. And I realized that like these beliefs, yeah, were always just, it's what you've adapted along the way. And like, so it's just 22 years of things that I believed about myself. And it's, I would say it's hard to do this work. It really is to sit with yourself and be uncomfortable, to deal with your feelings, to deal with like
Challaine (50:04)
Yeah
Chase Roberts (50:28)
all of that but i live such a more fulfilling life more aligned life more like to have control and honestly i'm not like fazed as much before like if somebody if i met somebody and they like didn't like me that would really affect me like what did i say wrong what did i do wrong honestly a lot of stuff just rolls off my backs and like that's more on them than it is on me like i gotta keep staying stay in stay in your lane i think we get so worked up same thing with relationships you get stood up on a date like
Challaine (50:45)
Yeah.
Chase Roberts (50:53)
That can be like, my gosh, like, what did I do wrong? You always put it on like you, but you're never thinking about what are they going through? What if it actually has nothing to do with you? And you're just here like to get that experience from that person and they're actually teaching you a lesson. So whenever something triggers me. Yes. Yes. To reject it or whatever.
Challaine (50:57)
Mm-hmm.
and maybe even teaching you how to respond to being stood up and not having it go your way. Yeah.
Chase Roberts (51:17)
So I think I've really learned to turn it back on myself if something like bothers me, triggers me, especially in relationships like, okay, what is this teaching me? What is it that I'm not giving to myself? Because you can do everything for yourself. Like you don't need somebody else to do something for you. And I think we push on other people. You need to do this for me. But it's really just you saying that I'm not doing that for myself right now. And I've become more aware of like, yeah, actually I have been ignoring myself or I have been not doing what I want to do and
it's a way to get your attention. But if you are only reacting and like, this is horrible, it's happening to me, you won't be able to see that lesson in the experience you're going through. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. 100%. But I do want to write a book one day that's been... Since I was younger. Yeah.
Challaine (51:54)
happening to me versus happening for me. Yeah.
Please do and let me know and yeah,
I will buy your first 10 copies. swear to God. Yeah, I like I I'm a fan of yours, Chase. I'm a fan.
Chase Roberts (52:08)
That's so like.
And I think that's amazing.
Thank you. Because a lot of times there's been so much self doubt in doing this journey, especially creating content of like, are people even listening to me type of thing. But I have to remind myself that I could be helping one person that if they decided that they didn't want to go to school, that could change their whole life because they saw one video of mine. And I think it's, I have, I think it's funny because I'm coming from somebody who had no voice. And so if I can stand up here and speak and put myself out there, I feel like using your struggles.
Challaine (52:26)
And that's it.
Yeah
Chase Roberts (52:41)
Before, long time, I didn't talk about having selective mutism and anytime I tell somebody they're like, what? I had no idea. Especially people in high school, because they were meeting me for the first time and I was really outgoing in high school and could talk to pretty much anyone. So when they found out, I'm like, I literally didn't speak and they were like, that's, that's, you're lying. But now I embrace it. I will talk to anybody about it. And I realized it's not like something that you should be ashamed that you went through that. And the more you can actually be open is helping other people who are scared to talk about their struggles.
Challaine (52:47)
Yeah.
you
Chase Roberts (53:10)
realize that you can use it as your superpower. Like you can connect with people because of that and if I was great my whole life and had a voice my whole life, what's the story to it? Like so yeah. β
Challaine (53:20)
Yeah, yeah, it's part of your story. It's part of your makeup. Yeah.
And I encourage you to keep making the content. Even if you think no one is listening or watching or a video doesn't get any likes, I watch a ton of shit that I don't like or comment on, right? But I'm seeing it, like, in my feeds. Otherwise, I'd be, like, liking all the, like, everything, right? And...
Chase Roberts (53:29)
Mm-hmm.
Right, yeah.
Challaine (53:44)
But someone is or a few people they're watching in the background. They're watching your growth. They're cheering you on and You're you're impacting their lives. Like I get messages just random messages from People like on the podcast page on Instagram or on my personal Instagram my Facebook Thank you for your message. You're such an inspiration and I hope to be like you one day I'm like, who are you but thank you right and they've never liked a post like I get a private message. So
Chase Roberts (53:56)
plans.
Yeah, am.
Challaine (54:12)
I encourage you to keep going. Yeah.
Chase Roberts (54:12)
Yeah, you really have no idea. Yeah, and I think I meet people even that I don't know in person, and they're like, my gosh, I've seen you in all these different countries. to me, I think my life is so normal. In my head, I'm living a typical life. But I realized, yeah, there's a lot of people who were stuck like I was five years ago, and I forget who I was five years ago.
because I was watching other content creators traveling and doing the thing that I wanted to do and I didn't know how to get there and now I'm living it and... yes, too. so I'm becoming the person that I wish like I was watching and that's what I'm putting out there and I'm not changing it anymore I thought I like I think the stress like really like around social media was just like posting whatever like it doesn't matter it doesn't need to be like I'm not trying to like this video is gonna do well I'm now posting
Challaine (54:39)
And that gave you the fire that lit the fire under your ass to do it.
Chase Roberts (55:01)
what's authentic to my life right now. This is what I'm going through. This is the struggle of my business. This is me going on this trip now. This is me literally saying that I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm going to Australia. Like to prove to you that like I actually don't have it figured out but I'm still going to do the thing even when I have like I don't know how I'm saving money. I don't know. Like I've got five months to figure it out. Like, yeah.
Challaine (55:12)
Yeah.
Start before you're ready isn't that what Jen Jen
Gottlieb says she says start before you're ready, and she's got that video of her Or it's it's just it's a still picture of her her first speaking engagement engagement There's like 15 people or something right and now she like is running the running these masterminds and world stages and
Chase Roberts (55:32)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
You have to start, yeah.
Challaine (55:42)
She was nervous and terrified and like
talking to 15 people who didn't really care, right? And now people are showing up for her because she started before she was ready and she just kept going.
Chase Roberts (55:49)
Hmm.
Yeah,
think too I recognize that the little me posting every day is a little habit that now nine months I have like over 300 videos or something and on my YouTube I've posted in the past month 50 videos on my YouTube Which is crazy because when I was like so scared to start a YouTube channel I was like what I'm gonna post now. I'm like why I don't have to be serious I just have to show up as me and I don't have to have my makeup on I don't have to my hair done. It just has to be
I have value in showing up and the right people are gonna find my videos and this is only my first year being self-employed. Like imagine five years from now, like if I continue to punch and show up in new ways and be willing to pivot and turn, I think I just have to remind myself that this is like, it's not linear, it really isn't. And just keep posting as, you know, me, that's it. Like, and I'm becoming, and I've realized it's fun to look back on who I was eight months ago and-
Challaine (56:27)
Totally, like exactly.
Chase Roberts (56:46)
She was so scared to go live or make a video of speaking. When I started Instagram, I was like, I'm only gonna post videos of my travel. I'm not gonna post me speaking. I'm not gonna post face to camera. And now I do that all the time. So that little step kind of opened the door. And so it's really the first step is the hardest. And then you start to open the door and build and get better at your videos or whatever you're doing. And you realize that like, yeah, you just had to do the little things and be like, look stupid at the beginning. I didn't think it's like, mm-hmm.
Challaine (56:49)
Yeah.
And then it becomes your new normal. It just
becomes a part of your life. And you're like, oh, I'm scared of what? Hitting play or hitting record? Yeah.
Chase Roberts (57:18)
100%. Yeah. I
realized nothing happened. Nobody made fun of my videos that I know of and even if they did, nobody like even people were more supportive than I thought they were gonna be. But I was really scared to be like, oh, I don't want to like, look, that's the biggest belief I have is looking stupid. And I think a lot of people think they're gonna look stupid. And it's like, by whose standard like
Challaine (57:24)
Nothing happened. I worked myself up for nothing.
Right, and you know what? Like some people do look stupid and it's fun and it's funny and like just go out and and look stupid I'm gonna go out and look stupid today. You might go out and look stupid today Anyone listening go out and be stupid. Who cares? Who cares chase? Thank you so much pardon
Chase Roberts (57:46)
Yeah, it's like.
Everyone's gonna forget about it.
Everyone's gonna forget about it anyways, even if you like... hmm.
Challaine (58:00)
Exactly. And
they don't care what you're wearing. They don't give a crap what you're wearing. And β one more time, what you're wearing doesn't change your experience. I love that. I'm going to share that with my kids today. Chase, thank you. Like, I am just like wowed. I am wowed by you. I'm wowed by your journey. I am so excited β that I found you. And I was like, I got to have this girl. I got to talk to her and to...
Chase Roberts (58:04)
No, they don't.
Bye!
Challaine (58:29)
β Continue to watch you β grow and blossom and just live this life of freedom that everyone is hustling for so bad.
so hard just hustle hustle hustle and you're you're living the dream girl you're living the dream for for a lot of people so my hat goes off to you and I want to thank you for being a voice for the 20 somethings for us 40 somethings you have a lot of power within you and let me know when you write that book I will buy your first 10 copies I want them to be signed though and yeah thank you for for being on the show I like to wrap up
Chase Roberts (58:41)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-mm.
Okay.
Challaine (59:11)
The episode with, β if you have one, a famous quote or something like a mantra that you kind of live by, β one I always say is, every journey begins with a single step. We tapped on that a lot today, I think. Does anything come to mind for you?
Chase Roberts (59:30)
Yes, I wish it was some beautiful quote, but I live my life by it's really not that deep and I think it's funny. I'm not serious person. I like to keep light and funny and whenever I feel myself overthinking and like just questioning everything, I'm like, it's really not that deep. Like your life is just like, come on, like pick yourself up. Let's keep going. It's... we analyze.
Challaine (59:38)
you
Mm-hmm.
going to title that the that's going to be the title to this episode it's
really not that deep wisdom from a world traveler at 22 oh I love that
Chase Roberts (59:58)
Yeah.
Like, it's just,
I feel like, and just genzies are unserious in a lot of ways, I find. It's just funny. just keeping that humor in your life and laughing at yourself. like, when things happen that are like, this is terrible. Like, I got scammed $3,000 and I was like laughing. like, you know what? I'm going to look back on this and I'm going to have a great story time. I said, it's really not that deep. It's, it's like, I'm safe. I'm happy. I'm healthy. That's what matters. So keeping your three.
Challaine (1:00:28)
safe and happy
and healthy.
Chase Roberts (1:00:30)
Like your life, we, I live a very privileged life so I can say like, yeah, the little things, the little things we focus on don't matter. Yeah.
Challaine (1:00:37)
Thank you. I just thank you.
Chase Roberts (1:00:38)
Well, thank you.
Challaine (1:00:40)
Thank you and thank
you to our listeners. Please like, share, love, smoke signals this, whatever you have to do. Get this episode out. Go follow Chase and follow her journey for years to come. I don't think she's going anywhere and watch out for this book. I'm to be cheering you on. We both live in Canada. So when you're across the many seas, I will be cheering you on from a distance. So thanks again. And until next time, I hope you have the
Chase Roberts (1:00:54)
Bye
Thank you.
Challaine (1:01:07)
best day ever and we will have a chat soon.